By Finalkingdom13

Anyway, can't wait to get it. Very original sounding.

By Matt_Walker

I was talking gibberish, it's an inside joke my brother usually pulls, and I find it very entertaining.

@Objection_Blaster

THE RACE IS ON!!!!!!

By Mickeymac

By strade32

By Objection_Blaster

How do you know it's not short enough?

Like I said, I avoid level grinding, and I had to avoid most of the monsters in order to even make it to the boss, and now I have to use all my skills just to last more than 30 seconds with those things. I'll just use that strategy thing next time I play it, as well as that thief ability you mentioned(if see'd stop dying all the time!).

@Objection_Blaster

I'll make a thread in the forums if there isn't one already. The time to beat is 6 hours & 13 minutes. Get moving people!

@Mr. Cheez

There was no kitty, you tricked me!

Edit: Nobody seems to have done it already, so I'm starting the first Lostwinds Best Times! Feel free to submit your times in the forum. It's my first thread, so bear with my, I'll be in the Wiiware section of the Forums.

Here's a link if you're interested:
http://www.vc-forums.com/lostwinds-best-times-t7908.html?p=72550

By Mickeymac

By strade32

By Objection_Blaster

@Mr. Cheez

First off, you will not be disappointed, there are worse ways you could spend $10, after all.

I have A.D.D. too, yet I'm still able to write so much, I just take brakes and lose focus while doing it. In fact, my ADD is part of why I write so much sometimes, as I...there I go again...start thinking about other things, and often times I start talking about them in my posts, even if the don't pertain to the actual conversation, or at least what I had been talking about.

By Mickeymac

By Mr. Cheez

By Charco

@Mickeymac. It's OK, buddy, just let it all out. As for me, I like to keep my comments brief. I'm a "short, sweet, and to the point" kinda guy. That and my A.D.D. keeps me from writing comments as long as yours on a regular basis. :) Hey look a Kitty!

By Mr. Cheez

By strade32

Wow...I actually feel better now!

By Mickeymac

WOW!!! And I thought I made speeches(not sure why, just did)!! I am truly humbled my friend.

As for the replay value of Lostwinds, well it did have those statues for you to find, and trust me, some of those are in really odd places. However, I spent so much time wandering around while trying to advance the story, that I found most of them before I beat the boss, with the exception of two that were hid in some really clever places.

To be honest I don't see my self playing this game any time soon. It's just not as fun once you know what to do and what's going to happen. It's the same problem I had with Metroid Prime - the fun was in the exploraion, and finding out what's around the next corner(and hoping it's not going to kill you). It's just not the same once you know what's gonna happen. The sadest part with MP though is, I deleted my save, somehow, so now I have to play it again, if I ever plan on seeing what's beyond that gas-chamber.

I suppose I'll play Lostwinds again someday, after I've forgotten everything, or at least after I beat Lostwinds 2. It's just really sad, Lostwinds was such a fun and creative game, yet our time together was so short(but so sweet). I suppose it was my fault for expecting something so great to last for so long. It was just a preview to an Epic, not the epic itself. I hope our next stay will be longer, but this time, I won't ask for so much.

Man, Moona, I keep looking at your post, and I gotta say, I'm jealous. I usually try to write the longest post ,if I can. Even if it involves cramming it with useless filler, I will still try. But here, my writing skills do not compare, and I'm not even going to try to trump your scholarly post.

Heck, I don't even think I could write anything that sounds as intelligent as that either. Maybe I need to start reading more books or something, I don't know. Since I signed up for this site, I've been trying to pass myself off as an intelligent man, maybe even started to belive it myself. But, after seeing that...I...I gotta go...

By Mickeymac

By Objection_Blaster

To those of you who wouldn't ask for anything more than 3 hours of play (and I mean this sincerely), then good for you, and I hope you enjoy it.

As to the rest of us, lets talk about the cost/length/value issue.

To me, a game that is both long and enjoyable throughout is representative of a very good value, and definitely something to look for. However, a game that is short and high quality can still be worth a purchase. But the clincher here is that short games need to have a certain quality known as replay value to be worth the value of a purchase. After all, Treasure makes some of the most unique and thoroughly enjoyable gaming experiences in the entire industry, but their games can often be snuffed in under 2 hours by an experienced player. What makes them far from forgettable is that Treasure designs the games to be enjoyed in a played and replayed fashion. A very short game with little-to-no replay value would need to be a truly spectacular and eye-opening experience to avoid ending up as little more than a forgotten couple-hour diversion in the grand scheme of things.

Now there are some short and good games on the market that are absolutely worth your time. Quite a number of games, in fact, can be played for all they're worth in around 10 to 15 hours. Some a little less. These games are what I call "rentals." For around $7, they can be had for about a week (longer if you shop Blockbuster), giving you plenty enough time to finish and be done with certain games.

To try to speed things along here, let me just categorize things here to hopefully sum up my points on the matter:

Games you rent

*Good games that are short, or short enough, without much replay value
(Also games you're afraid to buy before you try)

*Games you purchase

*Good games that are long
*Good games that are short but have enough replay value
*OR good games that are short with little replay value AND are LESS than the price of a rental (dirt cheap)

So how does Lost Winds fit into all of this? I think we can pretty much all agree that it is a good game that is very short and has little-to-no replay value. It is also fairly cheap. However, $10 for 3 hours of gameplay doesn't stack up well if we compare it to $7 for 6, 10, 15 hours (or dare I say even more, depending on your habits) of gameplay from a rental. In fact, I might be slightly disappointed at a rental that was all out of fun after just 3 hours. At $5 (less than rental price), I might consider it worthwhile to purchase a good 3 hour game. But as it stands, it's difficult to justify $10 for Lost Winds when I could spend less on a rental of Okami, for instance, and enjoy higher production values and probably at least 5 times the gameplay length.

Of course, it is a bit idealistic in a sense to categorize everything so stiffly, and in the real world everything is certainly not priced according to value. That's a fact of life we all need to deal with in one way or another.

Now (disclaimer:) this is simply my opinion, and I understand and acknowledge that some people are subject to different tastes and circumstances. If you have purchased Lost Winds and feel justified and satisfied in having done so, then good for you, and I cannot/will not argue that against you. My purpose in this post is to identify and establish ONE manner in which many, not all, people may conclude for themselves that Lost Winds is not worth the value of the asking price. It is not meant to argue or imply that some or many may discover otherwise in their own personal experience.

...Now how's that for covering my back?
I'm sure you can't tell, but I'm having fun. :]

By moosa

Quick question: If I'm out of MP, and out of Orange Gels, and I'm stuck in a dungeon, how am I suposed to beat the Boss?

By Mickeymac

By Kirby8

EDIT: oh, looking at your name i assume you have played it.

By strade32